"You and I swim in one box, and we think everybody knows that box," he said. "We need to resurrect the reality that it's really great to come to church. Some men drop off their families, but do not attend themselves."

Presbyterian Men is launching an ambitious campaign to increase membership and raise enough money to once again hire a full-time national staff person. The position was eliminated in July 2003 for financial reasons.

Presbyterian Men now has about 1 million members. About 700 PC(USA) congregations have chapters.